Why they became member of the O.T.O. 8 the
Italian OTO NEVER had more than 12 members
Nevio kept this contact. I had contacts with Bertiaux since Nevio,
though being officially in charge of the Order, was mostly drunk all
the time. This is why I took the reins of the Order myself unofficially
and pursued the contact with MB.
>Can you tell me who TODAY is heading all those OTO-groups in Italy?
This must be (was in 1990) Roberto N*** (Fr. Moloch) who I can tell
you did something I've never tried (as I AM a gentleman...) made some
papers and asked N*** to sign them when he was completely drunk,
to get the authority from him of OTO chief. Disgusting. But later in
the years I met him and he is not a bad guy. Just a bit too Nazi for my
taste ;-) He lives in ***. I may have his old phone number
somewhere. He should have some videos they made for the Italian TV, at
Cefalu', with rituals and stuff, also they showed on TV an invocation
of the Forgotten Ones, which was quite hilarious and disappointing....
a "priest" masturbating on a piece of meat (I guess you have that
ritual, by NEMA - Cincinnati OTO) but he was largely ridiculized by the
media I'm afraid...
I believe Nevio disliked quite deeply N***, the latter being a
businessman and apparently mainly interested in gaining titles... I've
never known about this early transition between them. It seems that
Nevio was already a bit ill/crazy by 1983 (or at least considered so by
"serious" occultists I've met later). I never understood completely the
relation between V** and N***, to me it was clear that Viola
repented that he had given any title to N*** and despised him for
his Nazi feelings...
la Fraternite Hermetique du Dragon Lunaire, This was the one I
remembered V*** had the charters with.
>Der vom Dalai-Lama anerkannte buddhistische Meister Namkhai Norbu
verkehrt ebenfalls in Fogagnolos Gruppe.
That is not true, I met personally Norbu. I had been indeed introduced
to him by F*** at a workshop of the former in ***. Most members
of F***'s group were followers of Norbu, but Norbu was not
reciprocally busy with them.
By the Way, it is so ironically sad... to read those papers, it seems
that there were a lot of people involved in this stuff.. but the
Italian OTO NEVER had more than 12 members..... I am dreadfully sure
about this. I know the names and the figures... there were only
isolated individuals with very little magical experience! The only
persons which were active were those you mention in your script, plus
me and two others in Trieste. At N***'s time I guess it may have a
bit busier, but not much... he may ha ve attracted only guys interested
in "sexual magic" or NeoNazi magicians .....
... F*** was the kind of person you expect would throw bombes on
behalf of some crazied guru.... I met only a few men who were in the
"original" Italian OTO, and they were rather quiet.... those were maybe
"too quiet" :-)
Oh yes, can you imagine, in Italy MOST esoterics are on the "right
side", I knew all of them assholes from the Fascist party who dabbled
in magic, satanism and the like. They look like Turks, they speak
Italian with a southern accent and still they write books about "the
purity of esotericism" "the roman hierophants" "Thelemic integrity",